MINUTES OF THE THIRD MEETING OF THE RTN NETWORK ON

" REACTIVE INTERMEDIATES "

(held in Garching bei München October 11-14^th 2001)

INTRODUCTION

Before the minutes of this meeting are presented, three documents which were central to this meeting are included. They are:

1 The objectives of the 3^rd Network Meeting, set at the previous Network meeting (in Lisbon, April 2001).

2 A Table of Proposed Interactions, drawn up at the Lisbon meeting. This is important as discussing and deciding on joint projects (i.e. finalising the interaction table) was the main topic of the 3^rd Network Meeting.

3 The programme of the meeting.

OBJECTIVES OF THE 3^rd NETWORK MEETING

1 To assess existing projects and activate new ones

2 To initiate mobility of YR’s and industrial training

3 To generate a joint publication list

4 To assess status of First Annual Report

5 To review training and research of YR’s

6 To ensure that the two arms of the Network (on Spectroscopy and Ion-Molecule Chemistry) are operative and active through the sub Co-ordinators

INTERACTION TABLE DRAWN UP AT THE LISBON MEETING

IN APRIL 2001

	Soton	Orsay	Crete	Porton	Lisbon	Garching	UVA	Bruker
Soton	´			Ö	Ö	Ö	Ö	Ö
Orsay		´	Ö				Ö
Crete		Ö	´		Ö		Ö
Porton	Ö			´		Ö		Ö
Lisbon	Ö		Ö		´
Garching	Ö			Ö		´		Ö
UVA	Ö	Ö	Ö				´
Bruker	Ö			Ö		Ö		´

Reactive Intermediates

Program of the 3rd Network meeting October 11-14, 2001

in Garching and Niederpöcking

Thursday:

9:00 - Arrivals according to individual schedule

transfer to hotel by taxi

lab tour, sightseeing on individual basis

20:00 Dinner at the Bürgerhaus, Garching

Friday:

9:00 Labtour

11:15 Lunch at Max-Planck-Institute

12:30 Bus Transfer to Niederpöcking

14:15 Check-In

14:45 Opening Remarks - John Dyke

Ion-Molecule Session I - Andy Bell

15:00 Keynote Lecture: Tilmann Märk, Innsbruck

Electron driven reaction dynamics in molecular ions and cluster ions

16:00 Gökhan Baykut

Electrospray Ionization and its application in FTMS

16:30 Coffee

17:00 Workshop I

17:45 Presentation of Workshop Results

18:00 Dinner

20:00 YRs meet on Webpage/Newsletter, Introduced by Kees deLange

20:15 Business Meeting: John Dyke / Kees deLange

22:00 Informal Meetings

Saturday:

7:30 Breakfast

Spectroscopy Session I - Dolores Gauyacq

9:00 Keynote Lecture: Ingo Fischer, Würzburg

Time- and frequency-resolved photoionisation of radicals, clusters and biomolecules

10:00 Severine Boyé

Structure and stability of the excited vinylidene radical predicted by ab initio calculations : is isomerisation possible at 10 eV ?

10:30 Dolores Gauyacq (John O’Reilly)

Photodissociation of C₂H₄ studied at Orsay synchrotron radiation

10:40 Coffee

11:00 Anouk Rijs:

Coincidence imaging of femtosecond dissociative ionization dynamics of CF₃I

11:30 Xavier Michaut

Photodissociation of simple triatomic molecules OCS and CS₂: fragmentation pattern and polarization dependence

12:00 Lunch

Ion-Molecule Session II - Andy Bell

13:30 Keynote Lecture: Zdenek Herman

Dynamics of chemical reactions of molecular dications

14:30 Peter Watts

Fragmentation mechanisms of some simple organophosphate ions in an ion trap mass spectrometer

15:00 Iulia Balteanu

The effect of charge upon CO-adsorption by ionic metal clusters

15:30 Coffee

16:00 Inma Torres

PES of Atmospherically Important Molecules

16:30 Petru Balaj

Reactions of hydrated aluminum ions with methanol and formic acid

17:00 Workshop II

17:45 Presentation of Workshop Results

18:00 Break

18:15 YRs Meeting on Webpage/Newsletter continued

18:15 Business Meeting continued

19:15 Break

19:30 Conference Dinner

22:00 Informal Meetings

Sunday:

7:30 Breakfast

8:45 please make rooms available before sessions

Spectroscopy Session II - Dolores Gauyacq

8:45 Kees de Lange

Ultrafast time-resolved photoelectron spectroscopy and angular distributions of small molecules

9:15 Lucia Zuin

Recent results on Atomic Oxygen, studied by Angle Resolved PES at Trieste

9:45 Manuel Gonzales

Ultaviolet photoelectron spectroscopy of azides

10:15 Coffee

10:30 Marcin Frankowski

Matrix-Isolation Spectroscopy of mass-selected tetracyanoethylene ions and ionic fragments

11:00 Workshop III

11:45 Presentation of Workshop Results

12:00 Lunch

13:30 Summary session:

Set Milestones to be achieved for next meeting

- joint projects

- research visits

- YRs Webpage/Newsletter

14:15 individual feedback from YR:

How did you like the meeting? Did you feel involved the way you expected?

Was there enough room to say what you wanted to say?

What can be improved in future meetings?

- 1-2 minutes per YR

14:30 Closing remarks - John Dyke

15:00 social activity around the Starnberger See, depending on weather

departure according to individual schedule

MINUTES OF THE THIRD MEETING OF THE RTN NETWORK ON

" REACTIVE INTERMEDIATES "

This meeting was organized by the Garching group and it was held in the DGB Bildungszentrum in Niederpöcking (Germany), from 12th until 14th October 2001. The list of the representatives from each research group participating in the Network, attending the Business and Scientific meetings, was as follows:
John Dyke (Co-ordinator) from Southampton, Kees de Lange (Network manager) from Amsterdam, Dolores Gauyacq and Philippe Bréchignac from Orsay, Maria Lourdes Costa, Augusto Moutinho and Maria Helena Cabral from Lisbon, Vladimir Bondybey and Martin Beyer from Garching, Peter Watts and Andrew Bell from Porton Down, and Gökhan Baykut from Bruker-Daltonik.

Stelios Couris from Crete was not able to attend this meeting at the last minute and sent his apologies.
The following Young Researchers (YR’s) and guests were also present at the Scientific Meeting: Lucia Zuin (YR) from Southampton, Anouk Rijs from Amsterdam, Sévérine Boyé from Orsay, Manuel Algarra (YR) and António Dias from Lisbon, Marcin Frankowski (YR), Iulia Balteanu (YR) and Petru Balaj (YR) from Garching, Xavier Michaut (YR) from Crete, and Inma Torres (YR) from Porton Down.

This meeting was organized along the two scientific topics of the Network, with Dolores Gauyacq chairing the Spectroscopy Sessions and Andrew Bell acting as chairman of the Ion-Molecule Sessions.

The three specialist guests speakers invited to this meeting to deliver keynote lectures, Tilmann Märk from Innsbruck, Ingo Fisher fromWürzburg, and Zdenek Herman from Prague, also attended the Scientific sessions held during the meeting and participated fully in the discussions.

Arrivals according to individual schedules occurred on Thursday, October 11th, and an initial informal dinner took place at the Bürgerhaus in Garching, where most participants stayed overnight.

On Friday, October 12th, participants were taken in the morning to the Garching campus for a welcome session followed by Lab tours. After lunch, at the Max-Planck Institute, the participants were transferred by bus to Niederpöcking for checking in at DGB Bildungszentrum.

According to the schedule, the meeting started at 14.45 h with Opening Remarks by John Dyke. He presented some tasks that should be undertaken during the meeting, namely three workshops to discuss and decide about research collaborations between groups as well as YR exchanges. It was decided that workshops I, II and III would be chaired by Peter Watts, Philippe Bréchignac, and Gökhan Baykut, respectively. The last one should also take into account possible industrial placements. He also mentioned the pressing need of reaching the joint publications production target set by the EC.

Friday, October 12 th

The Scientific Programme started with the first Ion-Molecule Session, chaired by Andy Bell, as follows:

15.00 h Keynote Lecture: Tilmann Märk, Innsbruck

Electron driven reaction dynamics in molecular ions and cluster ions.

16.00 h Gökhan Baykut, Bremen

Electrospray Ionization and its application in FTMS.

After the coffee break, at 16.30 h, Workshop I started at 17.00 h, led by Peter Watts.

Taking into account additions and deletions from the interaction table drawn up at the Lisbon Meeting last April, the interaction table was modified as follows:

Additions

Garching – Orsay

Porton Down– Lisbon

Deletion

Bruker – Southampton

Status of the Interactions/Collaborations

Porton Down/Garching/Bruker

Ø ESI/MS/Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy

ESI source and peripherals supplied by Bruker to Garching. Installation almost complete. Porton Down to visit Garching with chemicals as soon as possible when apparatus is working.

Action – work will be carried out on either trimethyl phosphate or dimethyl methylphosphonate

Porton Down/Southampton

Ø DFT calculations on organophosphates. Just started and active. Work progressing.

Action – none required

Porton Down/ Southampton

Ø Joint investigations on sulphides and disulphides. YR recently appointed

Action – Southampton and Porton Down to arrange visit by YR and to discuss possible programme

Lisbon/Southampton

Ø Joint investigations on experimental investigations of azides, ab initio calculations, and synchrotron studies. All proceeding well. Visit of YR from Lisbon to visit Southampton possibly in January 2002. Visit of YR from Southampton to visit Lisbon possibly in April 2002.

Action – none required

Garching/Southampton

Ø Experimental and theoretical studies of Al containing clusters. Proceeding.

Action – none required

Ø ZEKE studies of Me₂S; Cl₂ van der Waals complex. Not yet started.

Action – Southampton to initiate discussions with Garching. Visit of YR to Garching to be arranged in January.

Orsay/Garching

Ø Investigation of Radicals by Matrix isolation spectroscopy. Proposed.

Action – Orsay to initiate discussions

Ø Investigation of PAH cations and radicals by Cavity Ring-down spectroscopy. Proposed.

Action – Garching to initiate discussions

Orsay/Amsterdam/Southampton

Ø MPI studies. Awaiting appointment of YR in Amsterdam.

Action – Amsterdam to appoint YR

Lisbon/Garching

Ø Interaction of gases with metal clusters.

Action – Lisbon to initiate discussions

Crete/Orsay and Crete/Lisbon

Both in abeyance due to absence of the Crete representative and the fact that the YR in Crete has left the Network.

Action – Crete to appoint a new YR

Workshop I ended by 18.00h.

After dinner, YR’s Meeting on Web page/Newsletter started, at 20.00 h, introduced by C. de Lange. From 20.15-22.15 the YR’s meeting continued with only the YR’s present.

At 20.15 the Business Meeting was initiated with John Dyke starting with the conclusions made at the 2^nd RTN Meeting. Then, he dealt with the following topics:

· Objectives of the 3^rd Network Meeting

- to assess existing projects and activate new ones

- to initiate mobility of YR’s and industrial training

- to generate a joint publication list

- to assess status of first Annual Report

- to review training and research of YR’s

- to ensure that the two arms of the Network – on Spectroscopy and Ion – Molecule Chemistry – are operational and active through the sub-co-ordinators.

· Status of Interactions at Present

Joint Projects:

Ø Existing

Southampton « Lisbon – Work on Azides

Southampton « Garching – Calculations on Clusters

Porton Down « Southampton – Ion-Molecule Calculations

Ø Planned

Porton Down« Garching « Bruker – Matrix Isolation

Ø Possible

Garching« Lisbon – Surface/Cluster Work

Ø Not Involved Yet

Orsay, Crete, Amsterdam

Placements of YR’s

None yet made

Industrial Visits

- none yet made

- possible industrial partners: Bruker, Leybold, Porton Down, Unilaser

· Publications

Ø Joint Publications

- none out yet

- two in preparation ( Lisbon – Southampton, Southampton – Garching )

( 20 by the Mid – Term Review is the target set by the EC )

Ø Other Publications

Publications which are not joint but are from just one group, from work supported by the Network, should also be listed on the Web-site.

· Dates of Network Meetings

SEPTEMBER 1^st 2000 ® Start of the Project

October 2000 ® Holland

April 2001 ® Lisbon

October 2001 ® Garching

April 2002 ® Crete

October 2002 ® Southampton

( with Team Building and Presentation Course for YR’s )

April 2003 ® Mid-term Review - Orsay

( 20 joint publications is the target set by the EU )

October 2003 ® Bremen

April 2004 ® Salisbury

AUGUST 2004 ® End of Project

· Milestones of the Training Programme

Ø By the Mid-Term Review at least 40% of the training deliverables ( in terms of man-months ) must be achieved.

Ø The YR’s must have given two presentations on their projects and results to the Steering Committee and will have attended a team building and presentation skills course.

Ø The Mid-Term Review will take place no later than when two-thirds of the duration of the work performed under the contract has elapsed.

Ø The Mid-Term Review Report is the basis of discussion at The Mid-Term Review: it must be ready two months before the meeting and sent to the project manager in Brussels for approval prior to the meeting.

Ø Principal Contractor needs to agree agenda and date with the Commission at least two months prior to the meeting.

· Young Researchers

Ø Encourage YR’s to meet.

Ø Ask them to produce a scientific training plan.

Ø Ask them to have a YR web-page which can be part of the main web-page or is linked from the main web-page.

· Other Important Points

Ø Time Sheets for YR’s need to be kept from now on.

Individual YR’s should keep these up-to-date.

The time-sheet currently in use in Lisbon was discussed as a good example, but the other partners found it too detailed and restrictive for a research environment. The one in use in Orsay was felt to be more appropriate and it was generally agreed that, in future, this one should be adopted by the other groups.

Ø If a YR leaves the Network, an Annex A questionnaire needs to be completed by the YR before he/she leaves the Network.

The questionnaire can be found under

http://ftp.cordis.lu/pub/improving/docs/rtn_report.guide.pdf

· Important Points on Finance

Ø 59773 Euro was received for each node in January 2001.

Ø Payment Pattern ( Assumed )

Year 1 30% (received)

Year 2 15%

Year 3 20%

Year 4 20%

Retention for Final Report 15%

Ø First Year Report

Due up two months after the dead line (i.e. our deadline is November 1^st ). The Co-ordinator stated that both the research and financial parts of this report are well underway and both should be ready by the deadline.

· Agreed Financial Policy When a YR Moves from Centre A to Centre B for Short

Stay to Carry Out Research

It was agreed that Centre A will pay for travel and that Centre B will pay for subsistence according to the rules and conditions of the host centre.

· Allowable Costs

Allowable costs are given on the EC Web page. However, the two most important rules are:

(i) Overheads

The overhead contribution to the grant is fixed at a maximum of 20% of the actual direct costs

i.e. THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE CONTROLS THE OVERHEADS

(ii) 60% Rule for YR Personnel Costs

Under the terms of the Contract, the Network is required to spend at least 60%

of the total eligible costs of the project to support personnel costs of Yrs.

This MINIMUM of 60% need not to be applied to each set of COST statements,

but MUST apply cumulatively at the end of the project.

The participants must ensure that the training content specified in Annex 1 of

the Contract is achieved since this is deliverable under the Contract ( 300 man-

months in our case).

· Estimate of Expenditure to Date

It was agreed that every group should keep close to the 60% minimum of the total eligible costs of the project to support personnel costs of YR’s. It was noted that the Crete group currently shows the largest deviation on this figure.

Friday evening October 12^th, 21.15

· Young Researchers

Young researchers situation as on 2001-09-01 was introduced by C. de Lange ( the Network Manager), according to the following table:

Node	YR	Position	Country	Months	Status	Comments
Southampton	L. Zuin	predoc	Italy	11	continuing	G. Levita (It.) predoc from 2001/10/16
Amsterdam	Appointments	Blocked	---------	--------	------------	VACANT
Orsay	J. O’Reilly	postdoc	Ireland	3	continuing
Forth, Crete	X. Michaut	postdoc	France	4.5	left	VACANT
Porton Down	I. Torres	postdoc	Spain	10	Until 2001/10/31	F.Innocenti (It) predoc from 2001/09/01 S.DeFrutos (Es) predoc from 2001/09/01
Lisbon	M.Algarra	postdoc	Spain	7	continuing
München	M. Frankowski O.P. Balaj I. Balteanu	predoc predoc predoc	Poland Romania Romania	5.5 0 0	continuing continuing continuing
Bruker	No	appointments	planned	---------	-------------	--------------
TOTAL				41	(available term target	300, mid- >120)

The Network Manager asked the other partners to send him any information concerning possible candidates to fill the still existing vacancies.

· Discussion of Amsterdam Situation

This topic was introduced by the Network Co-ordinator, John Dyke.

After a brief discussion it was decided that the project aims could still be achieved if a YR is appointed at the Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam (not the University of Amsterdam) under Professor De Lange’s supervision. The Amsterdam budget could be administered from Southampton or from the Vrije Universiteit. This will be decided when a YR is appointed in Amsterdam.

The session ended by 22.00 h. Informal meetings, concerning future collaborations and research in progress went on.

Saturday, 13^th October

The Spectroscopy Session I, chaired by Dolores Gauyacq, started after breakfast (7.30h – 9.00h) with the following programme:

(YR’s employed by the Network are shown in bold)

9.00 h Keynote Lecture

Ingo Fischer, Würzburg

Time- and frequency- resolved photoionisation of radicals, clusters and biomolecules

10.00 h C. de Lange, Amsterdam

Ultrafast time-resolved photoelectron spectroscopy and angular distributions of small molecules

Coffee break

11.00 h Anouk Rijs, Amsterdam

Coincidence imaging of femtosecond dissociative ionisation dynamics of CF₃I

11.30 h Xavier Michaut (YR), Crete

Photodissociation of simple triatomic molecules OCS and CS₂: fragmentation pattern and polarization dependence

12.00 h Lunch

The Ion –Molecule Session II chaired by Andy Bell started then, with the programme:

14.30 h Keynote Lecture

Zdenek Herman, Prague

Dynamics of chemical reactions of molecular dications

15.30 h Peter Watts, Porton Down

Fragmentation mechanisms of some simple organophosphate ions in an ion trap mass spectrometer

16.00 h Iulia Balteanu (YR), Garching

The effect of charge upon CO-adsorption by ionic metal clusters

Coffee break

17.00 h Inma Torres (YR), Porton Down

PES of atmospherically important molecules

17.30 h Petru Balaj (YR), Garching

Reactions of hydrated aluminium ions with methanol and formic acid

At 18.30 h Workshop II, dealing mainly with joint projects and exchanges of YR’s, started chaired by Philippe Bréchignac. The results, which were derived from the conclusions of the Workshop I, shown in bold, were as follows:

Porton Down/Garching/Bruker

Ø ESI/MS/Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy

ESI source and peripherals supplied by Bruker to Garching. Installation almost complete. Porton Down to visit Garching with chemicals as soon as possible when apparatus is working.

Action – Porton Down to agree with Garching a suitable test material

Porton Down/Southampton

Ø DFT calculations on organophosphates. Just started and active. Work progressing

Action – none required

Porton Down/Southampton

Ø Joint investigations on sulphides and disulphides. YR recently appointed

Action – Southampton and Porton Down to arrange visit by YR and to discuss possible programme

Lisbon/Southampton

Ø Joint investigations on experimental investigations of azides, ab initio calculations, and synchrotron studies. All proceeding well. Visit of YR from Lisbon to Southampton possibly in January 2002. Visit of YR from Southampton to Lisbon possibly in April 2002.

Action – none required

Garching/Southampton

Ø Experimental and theoretical studies of Al containing clusters. Proceeding.

Action – none required

Ø ZEKE studies of Me₂S; Cl₂ van der Waals complex. Not yet started.

Action – Southampton to initiate discussions with Garching. Visit of YR to Garching to be arranged in January.

Orsay/Garching

Ø Investigation of Radicals by Matrix isolation spectroscopy. Proposed.

Action – Orsay to initiate discussions

Ø Investigation of PAH cations and radicals by Cavity Ring-down spectroscopy. Proposed.

Action – Garching to initiate discussions. Answer expected by December 2001.

Orsay/Amsterdam/Southampton

Ø MPI studies. Awaiting appointment of YR in Amsterdam.

Action – Amsterdam to appoint YR

Lisbon/Garching

Ø Interaction of gases with metal clusters. Proposed

Action – Lisbon to initiate discussions

NEW

Lisbon/Orsay

(As a result of further discussions concerning collaborations and YR’s visits)

Ø REMPI of azides in molecular beam.

Action – Lisbon to confirm YR visit. Possibly February 2002.

Ø Lisbon/Orsay interaction possible on cluster work.

Ø Interactions involving Crete could presently not be decided as Crete representative was not present and there is a YR vacancy in Crete.

Action – Crete to appoint a YR

Workshop II ended by 19.15h.

The Conference Dinner was held at 19.30 h.

After dinner the YR’s Meeting on Web page/Newsletter continued, as well as informal meetings.

Sunday 14^th October

The Spectroscopy Session II, chaired by Dolores Gauyacq, started after breakfast (7.30 h – 8.45 h) with the following programme:

(YR’s employed by the Network are shown in bold)

8.45 h Sévérine Boyé, Orsay

Structure and stability of the excited vinylidene radical predicted by ab initio calculations: is isomerisation possible at 10 eV?

9.15 h Lucia Zuin (YR) Southampton

Recent results on atomic oxygen studied by Angle Resolved PES at Trieste

9.45 h Marcin Frankowski (YR), Garching

Matrix-Isolation Spectroscopy of mass-selected tetracyanoethylene ions and ionic fragments

10.15 h Coffee Break

10.30 h Manuel Algarra (YR), Lisbon

Ultraviolet Photoelectron Spectroscopy of azides.

11.00 h Workshop III

Chairman, Gökhan Baykut

It was agreed that interchange of YR’s between centres will occur only if a suitable joint project is in place and has been fully discussed by the partners. In order to avoid waste of time, no travelling will happen if there is not a supporting project. Any deviation of the agreed interactions should be communicated to the Network Co-ordinator and to the Network Manager, as they have to report them to Brussels.

It was also agreed that, because the main aim of this meeting was to start joint projects and to initiate mobility of YR’s between centres, industrial placements of YR’s will be agreed and started from the next Network meeting (in Crete), i.e. no plans for YR industrial placements will be made at the Garching meeting.

· Interactions Agreed

Garching/Porton Down/Bruker

ESI/Matrix-Isolation

Results Oct.-Dec. 2001

(visit from Porton Down to Garching, depending on results)

Action– Porton Down and Garching to agree on suitable test material.

Porton Down/Southampton

Theoretical ( on Organophosphates and Sulphides/Disulphides). Work progressing.

Action–non required.

Lisbon/Southampton

Thermal decomposition of azides by UVPES and synchrotron studies on radicals (Trieste)

Lisbon YR visits Southampton in January 2002

Southampton YR visits Lisbon in April 2002

Action–non required.

Garching /Southampton

a) Experimental work – Aluminium Clusters

In Munich – no transfer; work progressing.

b) ZEKE work – under discussion

Action–Southampton to initiate discussion with Garching.

Garching/Orsay

Investigation of Radicals by Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy

Action–Orsay to initiate discussion with Garching.

Lisbon/Garching

Cluster/Surface Studies ( Azide Adsorption – Martin Beyer visits Lisbon, possibly, February/March 2002)

Action–Lisbon to initiate discussion with Garching

Lisbon/ Orsay

REMPI of Azides

Lisbon YR (António Paiva) visits Orsay, possibly, February 2002

Action–Orsay arranges visit.

· Interactions on Hold

Orsay/Amsterdam/Southampton

Crete/Orsay

Crete/Lisbon

Crete/ Amsterdam

The workshop ended by 12.00 h.

After lunch, at 13.30 h, the Summary Session was introduced by C. de Lange (Network Manager). He dealt with the following points:

· Publications

1. Joint papers as well as papers connected to Network Activities

As soon as a paper is accepted, send copy to the Network Manager with the following information:

Journal name, title, authors, affiliations.

1. Publicity about Network

Send copies to Network Manager.

· Activities of YR’s

1. Keep in contact

2. Produce a training plan

3. Create a web site for YR’s

4. Appoint a spokesperson for the YR’s.

· Milestones for the Next Network Meeting

1. Maintain the Spectroscopy (Dolores Gauyacq) and Ion-Molecule Reaction (Andy Bell) arms of the Network

2. Realize placements in the agreed projects

3. For the projects under discussion: conclude and report

4. Realize planned actions of YR’s.

At 14.15 h the individual feedback from YR’s session, started. This was divided into two sections:

· Conclusions drawn from the YR’s meetings

1. The YR Web page/Newsletter should include some information (about half page A4) about each YR concerning scientific background, work done before joining the present research group, etc.

The contact person will be Marcin Frankowski in München. The deadline for sending the information to him will be the 15^th of November.

2. Proposal for next meeting:

New YR’s, besides the talks that they have to give, should also present posters to remain on show during the meeting. This should encourage continuous interactions of YR’s throughout the meeting.

3. Any information concerning conferences or any interesting development should be spread among YR’s, via the YR web page

· Individual feedback from YR’s

Every YR had 2minutes to report to the following matters:

- How did they like the meeting?

- Did they feel sufficiently involved?

- Was there enough room to say what they wanted to say?

- What can be improved in future meetings?

This YR session went well and it was felt that it should be repeated at future meetings.

The summary of what was said in these short presentations is as follows:

1. The Network meeting provided a good opportunity for YR presentations, as these talks are not the same as in group meetings.

2. The proposed joint projects provide a good opportunity for YR’s to be involved in different research projects in different groups.

3. A good impression was obtained by the YRs from the meeting, like the previous one, because, besides the scientific level of the research, the contact with group leaders and other senior scientists was informal and friendly.

4. It was noted that in the 10 days before the start of the meeting, 2 YR’s had started working in one centre (Southampton). Unfortunately, they were not at the meeting as the attendance list was decided on several weeks earlier. It was agreed that it would have been beneficial for them to attend. It was agreed that all Network YR’s should attend all Network meetings, even if they have only just joined the Network.

Finally, John Dyke introduced the Closing Remarks thanking everybody who contributed for the success of the 3^rd Network Meeting, with special thanks for the excellent organisation by Dr Martin Beyer and the Garching Group.

Conclusions of the 3^rd Network Meeting

1 To activate agreed joint projects and make the proposed placements of the YR’s in the host centres within the Network.

2 Industrial placements of YR’s (i.e. at Leybold or Unilaser) will be discussed and planned at the next Network meeting.

3 To encourage joint research between the teams in the Network and joint publications.

4 Realise planned training programme of the YR’s and keep a separate section for YR’s in future Network meetings. Maintain the YR web site, linked to the main Network Web page.

5 Maintain the Spectroscopy and Ion-Molecule parts of the Network in future Network meetings.

6 Undertake a major effort to fill the remaining YR vacancies in the Network (in Amsterdam and Crete) as soon as possible.

7 The next Network meeting will be in Crete in April/ May 2002.